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Re: Command Center background

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2020 9:01 pm
by Salty
@silverloaf I hear ya. I wanted to stay with a little bit of the original. I actually like the tank PCB b/c it's repairable.
The SeeLevel system is good, I considered that myself. I like how the installation instructions tell you not to use spade connectors.
Have you considered an electronic weather center vice the gauges?
Do you want to stay with an analog Ammeter for the battery?
21st century look or more traditional?

I stayed with the analog weather gauges. I replaced the barometer with a more substantial unit. Heavy brass. Very nice. Small but readable. The other two gauges are ebay specials. Much better looking, but not the quality I was looking for. Found a home for the three of them over the microwave.

Today's progress
command center comparison.jpg
EDIT: I came up with the designs, but they panel was cut CNC (switch holes were a little tight and required some minor adjustment on my part) and the graphic was roughed out by me, but massaged by a graphics artist. I'm guilty of the frame.

Re: Command Center background

Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2020 8:51 pm
by silverloaf
Salty wrote: Tue Oct 06, 2020 9:01 pm @silverloaf I hear ya. I wanted to stay with a little bit of the original. I actually like the tank PCB b/c it's repairable.
The SeeLevel system is good, I considered that myself. I like how the installation instructions tell you not to use spade connectors.
Have you considered an electronic weather center vice the gauges?
Do you want to stay with an analog Ammeter for the battery?
21st century look or more traditional?

I stayed with the analog weather gauges. I replaced the barometer with a more substantial unit. Heavy brass. Very nice. Small but readable. The other two gauges are ebay specials. Much better looking, but not the quality I was looking for. Found a home for the three of them over the microwave.

Today's progress
command center comparison.jpg

EDIT: I came up with the designs, but they panel was cut CNC (switch holes were a little tight and required some minor adjustment on my part) and the graphic was roughed out by me, but massaged by a graphics artist. I'm guilty of the frame.
The SeeLevel module is very thin and fits flush against the panel. The hole in the panel is cut out slightly smaller than the module. It's a very clean look.

But all other gauges I have looked at have a rather thick frame, like it's been designed to sit on a table. I'm looking for stuff that has a dashboard appearance.

Re: Command Center background

Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2020 1:25 am
by Salty
@silverloaf Digital or Analog meters?
SVL1.jpg
SVL2.jpg

Re: Command Center background

Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2020 10:09 am
by Razorback
Hmmmmm. I like both for different reasons.

What's the overall interior of yours like? "Updated" to be more modern-looking, or like mine..... "vintage"?

I love the "vintage" look and feel of ours. With that, I would like the analog meters. Much simpler design. If one meter quits for some reason, they might not all quit.

I guess it just depends....

Re: Command Center background

Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 6:17 pm
by silverloaf
Salty wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 1:25 am @silverloaf Digital or Analog meters?
SVL1.jpg

SVL2.jpg
Salty -

The interior dimensions of our command center panel is roughly 22" wide x 7" high. It is located above the frig and tilts up from the top. There is much wasted space behind the command center but not really useful for storage.
I suppose it would be nice to have some type of "weather center" for temps, humidity, BP, time, etc. I haven't found one that actually face-mounts to a flat panel. Perhaps I can split the panel, with the weather center on one side and the SeeLevel monitor, ammeter, kill switch, etc. on the other.

I don't want to be filling the panel with just to make it look hi-tech. I'm about function, not doo-dads.

Re: Command Center background

Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 9:36 pm
by Salty
Mine are the same dimensions. I just threw those up as an idea. I will scale it up if you like. If you find some components that you like I can try to do a graphic for you.

One of the benefits of relocating the command center for me is eliminating that unused space above the existing fridge and making room for a larger one (fridge).

I spent the evening tracing out the Command Center PCB connections - the connectors on the PCB, the 10 pin, 7 pin and 3 pin connectors that attach to the circuit board.

A question for you folks with 80's Avions. On mine, there is a white 15 pin connector that is an intermediate between the command center PCB + Indicator Lights + switches. Are yours like that as well?
Attached is the PCB pin out
PCB pinout.pdf
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Re: Command Center background

Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2020 1:32 pm
by Salty
Made a correction to the pinout pdf in the previous post.

Re: Command Center background

Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2020 7:22 pm
by silverloaf
Salty wrote: Sun Oct 11, 2020 9:36 pm Mine are the same dimensions. I just threw those up as an idea. I will scale it up if you like. If you find some components that you like I can try to do a graphic for you.

One of the benefits of relocating the command center for me is eliminating that unused space above the existing fridge and making room for a larger one (fridge).

I spent the evening tracing out the Command Center PCB connections - the connectors on the PCB, the 10 pin, 7 pin and 3 pin connectors that attach to the circuit board.

A question for you folks with 80's Avions. On mine, there is a white 15 pin connector that is an intermediate between the command center PCB + Indicator Lights + switches. Are yours like that as well?
Attached is the PCB pin out
PCB pinout.pdf
Thanks, Salty. Frankly, this hasn't been a priority. I won't have good place to work on our trailer until our house is built. We have been dealing with an unusual wet summer in GA, so construction has been agonizingly slow. I'll be in touch, my friend.